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    Meditating on tiredness and delusion.

    I am not new to meditation but for the last several months every one of my meditations leads to tiredness to such a strong degree of become delusional. My mind becomes filled with that simi awake simi asleep state regardless of how much sleep I get. I try being kind to it just allowing it but it always ends in me being half asleep inside of weird dream like states. This has been happening for so long that I'm not sure what to do. Should I just accept it and hope one day it clears up? All things are in permanent but I feel like in this situation I'm not doing something right.

    To clarify this is much more than just sloth and torper. When one has to pull an all nighter and gets into that delusional awake yet dreaming state is what I get in the first 5 minutes every day.

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    Senior Member Mara Pacers's Avatar
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    Greetings Dustin
    I'm sorry I can't answer your question, but there are many experienced meditators who come to this forum who may be able to. Also you can post this question in the 'Ask a monastic' section of the forum as well.

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    Administrator/ 5 Precept Keeper Senior Member Jerrod Lopes's Avatar
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    Dustin,

    Try walking meditation for a little while, maybe a week. See how that goes. For sitting meditation, balance a cup of water on your head, or sit on the cover of a tank of snakes. Best of luck. Nice to see you here.

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    What has me thrown off is I'm not experiencing any nodding. I'm not falling asleep but rather my mind enters a very strange and weird dream like abstract state. I feel as though it is a reflection that's telling me I'm over stimulated over worked and over doing it. Might need to take some time off work and time off from the family to just rest and meditate to get some simple stillness back in my life.

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    Either way, it comes down to a lack of focus. What is your meditation object; the breath, a pebble on the floor? It sounds, given your brief description, that your meditation object(s) is primarily the visual aspects of your thoughts. If so, that's a losing proposition from the start. Start from the beginning. Take a few good cleansing breaths, take as much time as you need to get comfortable, then turn all focus and mindfulness to your meditation object. Forget anything else until you can sustain focus. Everything else falls in line accordingly. Start by meditating for maybe only 2 or 3 minutes at a time. Be well.

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    I've been meditating on my breath for a long time and have taken it into very deep states. I imagine I could always focus more yet I think it might be something more. I'll have, what I consider, strong focus on my breath then I justslip into a very strange and abstract state in which focus can't happen. I think I'm going to try a little subtle force with it. I know what happened in the past doesn't mean much but for a long time I could use my breath to go into very wonderful deep states.

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